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62 years on, peace is not impossible - Rami G Khouri

Seeded on Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:47 PM EST
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The Palestinian (leader), Saeb Erekat, in a commentary in the Guardian newspaper earlier this month, reminded us that the heart of the conflict for the Palestinians was their refugeehood and exile - partly due to the usual chaos of war, mostly due to deliberate Zionist ethnic cleansing to clear the way for the Jewish state
Peace is not impossible OR is it really possible with the present state of affairs ?

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norsam

Newsvine COH please.

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Reply#1 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:48 PM EST
norsam

let the truth be told

The Jewish-majority Zionist Israeli state would have been impossible without the mass expulsion of Palestinians, he explained, “given that Palestinians constituted a majority in every district of historic Palestine prior to 1948 and also owned over 90 per cent of the landŲ©. This period of dispossession, known to Palestinians as Al Nakba or ‘the catastrophe’, is the seminal Palestinian experience and source of our collective identity”.

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#1.1 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:49 PM EST
norsam

The zionists keep coming up with uncompareable excuses to thawrt the peace process

The Israeli foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, meanwhile, noted in his year-end remarks to Israeli diplomats that a peace agreement with the Palestinians was impossible to achieve under the current circumstances, and the best that could be hoped for were long-term interim agreements on security and economic matters - an offer the Palestinians reject routinely.

Senior Israeli officials have recently offered other ideas as well, notably the notion that Jews who left, fled or were driven out of Arab countries in and around 1948 had to be considered in any peace agreement - meaning that approximately equal numbers of Jews and Arabs changed places in the region and therefore there is nothing to negotiate.

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#1.2 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:51 PM EST
norsam

Conclusion

Yes, this is a hard conflict to resolve, but hard is not impossible Israelis must come to grips with a “meaningful refugee choice on return and restitution” for Palestinian refugees everywhere

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#1.3 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:56 PM EST
IDFeb89

The zionists keep coming up with uncompareable excuses to thawrt the peace process

Surely, norsam, the irony of that statement isn't lost on you?...

Lieberman, Netanyhu- they've been in power less than two years. it runs much deeper than those two, believe me. perhaps look in the mirror first, and on many, many, missed opportunities long before they ever came to power.

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#1.4 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:17 PM EST
IDFeb89

Israelis must come to grips

And you must come to grips with Israel as a FACT. hence, it's here to stay. once you do it'll be a lot easier to turn the vision of two States, living side by side, in peace and with security, to an actual reality on the ground.

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#1.5 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:38 PM EST
moshawn

IDF at the rate at which things are going, zionists seem to be aiming lot more in occupation of Palestine and other neighbouring lands as time goes by.

    #1.6 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:19 PM EST
    IDFeb89

    moshawn,

    Can you come to grips with Israel as a fact that's here to stay? can you come to grips with Israel's legitimate security concerns with respect to any future agreement, be it with the Palestinians, or any other country in the region? Can you come to grips with the right of Israelis, Jews to live in peace and with security in the Middle East? do you consider any of Israel's concerns regarding this conflict legit, or only those of the Palestinians? could you invision yourself ever referring to Israelis as just that- Israelis...instead of Zionists?

    I believe in the two state solution, two states for two peoples. I believe it's not too late for that. I believe in the right of Palestinians to live in their own country, next to Israel, in peace and with security. I believe we can reach that vision by negotiating directly, honestly.

    What do you believe in, moshawn?

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    #1.7 - Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:56 AM EST
    moshawn

    IDF

    I am sorry to say that the facts and realities on ground are different. I hope and wish I can say something good positive and optimistic for the future but unfortunately it has has been for the most part (in the big picture) bad news, negative activities and pessimistic outcome over so many years now.

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    #1.8 - Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:10 PM EST
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    The Jewish-majority Zionist Israeli state would have been impossible without the mass expulsion of Palestinians, he explained, “given that Palestinians constituted a majority in every district of historic Palestine prior to 1948 and also owned over 90 per cent of the landŲ©

    It is inaccurate to say that Palestinians owned more than 90 percent of the land. Registered ownership of Jewish land has been estimated at around 7 percent. But that does not mean that everything else was owned by Palestinians. A very large portion of the land while it was under Ottoman rule was owned by the government. So when the Ottoman Empire fell and Britain was given control, the land passed to them. This government owned land was as much Non-Palestinian as it was non-Jewish.

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    Reply#2 - Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:58 PM EST
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